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on the clinton question, the clinton question, romney showed, like bill clinton energized the democratic con of earnings romney has energized his base that was about to abandon him, and he's shown that he's a contender. but the more the fact checkers, the more the debate goes on, the more people find -- >> you mean -- >> why wasn't obama the fact checker? >> do you mean obama is the incumbent? >> i thought i made that clear the first time around. it's not just tin come ben see, though. >> he's the president. >> john, have you forgotten all the problems romney has had for the last few weeks? >> i think part of obama's problem was his coaching and i also think he was leaning too much on his income ben sea instead of getting out there assuming he was on the same level as romney. >> just an advisory board, yes. >> what i support is no change for current retirees and near retirees to medicare, and the president supports taking $716 billion out of that program. i want to take that $716 billion you have cut and put it back into medicare. by the way, we can include a prescription program if we n
on the clinton question, the clinton question, romney showed, like bill clinton energized the democratic con of earnings romney has energized his base that was about to abandon him, and he's shown that he's a contender. but the more the fact checkers, the more the debate goes on, the more people find -- >> you mean -- >> why wasn't obama the fact checker? >> do you mean obama is the incumbent? >> i thought i made that clear the first time around. it's not just tin come...
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romney was in new york, speaking at the clinton global initial gen. he argued that foreign aid it needs to have more strings attached to. what is your sense of what he might do these of the foreign policy. the last of these presidential debates will b specifice wii about foreign policy. this notion that is president lacks resolve and our foreign policy is lacking under his leadership. >> i don't know. to think that our problem is too little military seems to me again to get it completely wrong. we wasted a great deal of the past 11 years in two wars we never should of had. the iraq war on phony pretenses. the afghanistan war, another war we should never have had. we spent trillions of dollars, a waste of money and a waste of blood. it seems what romney is saying we do not have enough military. again, to my mind, it gets it exactly wrong. i think president obama has been judicious in the past year in this arab spring, which is a tremendous amount of tumult in the middle east. we do not control events cared for romney to pretend that we do it and preten
romney was in new york, speaking at the clinton global initial gen. he argued that foreign aid it needs to have more strings attached to. what is your sense of what he might do these of the foreign policy. the last of these presidential debates will b specifice wii about foreign policy. this notion that is president lacks resolve and our foreign policy is lacking under his leadership. >> i don't know. to think that our problem is too little military seems to me again to get it completely...
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when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016 and beyond. that is why i called the coalition of the ascendant. if you look at 2010, it was an electorate that was older and more conservative. that is why republicans did so well in 2010 and not so well in 2008. clinton said this is not rocket science, that what republicans want to do is they want to make the 2012 electorate look more like the 2010 electorate and the 2008 electorate. and clinton said he had never seen in his lifetime an effort to restrict the franchise that he has seen today. clinton grew up in arkansas. he knows what this kind of politics is ab
when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016...
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obama has to go back to the clinton era. it was when the republican congress came in in january of 1995 and past welfare reform and all sorts of new and fantastic criminal law provisions. guest: the idea that what people do not know about obama it is racist is a preposterous. where was all this love for blacks and high public positions when clarence thomas was nominated to the supreme court? how about 1 condoleezza rice was the first black female secretary of state? democrats do not like obama because he is black. they like him because he is left-wing. and his proposal to raise taxes -- they can call them racist. that's what democrats like about obama. they couldn't care less he is half black. caller: i have two questions. i wonder if there is a two- tiered justice system in this country. thousands and thousands of dollars while on the terrorist watch list. muslims get prosecuted for the same thing. i have another question. guest: that is not my interest. a're in the middle of presidential election. i just wrote this book. t
obama has to go back to the clinton era. it was when the republican congress came in in january of 1995 and past welfare reform and all sorts of new and fantastic criminal law provisions. guest: the idea that what people do not know about obama it is racist is a preposterous. where was all this love for blacks and high public positions when clarence thomas was nominated to the supreme court? how about 1 condoleezza rice was the first black female secretary of state? democrats do not like obama...
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. >> paul: hillary clinton suggested that the consulate attack in benghazi involved the al-qaeda affiliate in north africa it was like will goly the work of the terrorist group. that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist
. >> paul: hillary clinton suggested that the consulate attack in benghazi involved the al-qaeda affiliate in north africa it was like will goly the work of the terrorist group. that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist
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but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know who's stupid when it comes to the economy. thanks so much for watching. thank you to the university of denver for hosting us. and to all of you watching at home. my colleague, chris mathews is also here in denver. he picks things up with "hardball." two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people j
but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know who's stupid when it comes to the economy. thanks so much for watching. thank you to the university of denver for hosting us. and to all of you watching at home. my colleague, chris mathews is also here in denver. he picks things up with "hardball." two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since,...
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that has been a well-known fact since the clinton administration. i really thought barack could have hit him a lot harder on a lot of things. when he said that there was $90 billion bid into green energy, that is what has been creating jobs all over this country. california has an incredible job increase in the solar energy field. i am with barack. he knows what he is doing. >> liz will be our final phone call. she is in north carolina, republican. >> i think that the moderator was very disappointing. he did not control the debate at all. obama had much more time than romney. i think a couple of times, romney did sort of interrupt, but he had to. obama had been on for five minutes. i timed it myself. the other thing is that people are saying that romney did not lay out his agenda very well. i think he did. he explained what he wanted to do, 1, 2, 3, several times. the lady from florida said that he didn't explain what he was going to
that has been a well-known fact since the clinton administration. i really thought barack could have hit him a lot harder on a lot of things. when he said that there was $90 billion bid into green energy, that is what has been creating jobs all over this country. california has an incredible job increase in the solar energy field. i am with barack. he knows what he is doing. >> liz will be our final phone call. she is in north carolina, republican. >> i think that the moderator was...
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bush and bill clinton. the second debate between clinton and bob dole in 1996 with 36.3 million viewers. as president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head explaining their tax plans, there was one name that came up in both of their answers. >> governor romney says the top 3% are the job creators burdened. under gov romney's definitions, there are a bunch of millionaires and bill nars. donald trump is a small business, i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything but that's how you define small business. >> the reality is, it's not just donald trump you are taxing. it's all the businesses that employ one quarter of workers in america, the small businesses taxed as individuals. >> you are surprised to know mr. trump reacted on twitter. he said as a big job creator, i was greatly honored to have been mentioned twice during the debate. donald trump. >>> let's turn to another political debate. jon stewart v. bill o riley. he called in stephven colbert. he was brought in by two shirtless handlers to get
bush and bill clinton. the second debate between clinton and bob dole in 1996 with 36.3 million viewers. as president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head explaining their tax plans, there was one name that came up in both of their answers. >> governor romney says the top 3% are the job creators burdened. under gov romney's definitions, there are a bunch of millionaires and bill nars. donald trump is a small business, i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything but that's how...
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bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million new jobs, but from deficit to surplus, and businesses did well. in some ways we have some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans. i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks and those of us who have done well because of this magnificent country we live in that we can afford to do more to make sure we are not blowing up the deficit. >> he gets the first word of that segment. let me make this comment. let me repeat what i said. i am not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. that is not my plan. let's look at history. my plan is not like anything that has been tried before. my plan is to bring down rates and credit so the revenue stays in but we bring down rates to get more people working. my priority is putting people back to work in america. they are suffering. look at the evidence of the last four years. it
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first heed you is say about the kay men islands bill and hillary clinton claim $200,000 of foreign tax credits in 2006. that's more than i did. >> bill: he has got it say to the people these criticisms will -- okay for the secretary of state by isn't it okay for me. >> bill: you said something very interesting. you said that he has pulse ahead in the swing tates last time you said he wasn't. >> i said just the opposite. falling behind. -- that is true i think the polls are rest. i just went through it if you take ohio, florida and virginia, you combine them, the exit polls from the last four elections have a 1 point democratic skew. the polling that has been done in the month of september in those three states has an 8 point democratic skew. >> bill: i know that. >> a 7 point -- >> bill: are you holding to what you said here last week whereas you don't believe these polls, you think that they are consciously -- remember what you said was done deliberately to put the president ahead in a psychological way. are you still holding to that? >> i do. >> bill: if the election were held tomorr
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and she helped prep hillary clinton for the debates four years ago. thank you to you both for being here. >> great to be here. >> abby, what's the biggest danger for governor romney tonight? >> reverend, let me start by wishing you a happy birthday tonight. >> you have a file on me, i hear. i hope everything is fine or good. >> i think we'll survive unless you can't hear me but i would say the biggest challenge that mitt romney has is he's in a box. no matter what he says, it's likely he says the complete opposite in his past. look, people are wanting to see the real mitt romney. they want to know who he really is. i think his biggest challenge is not being himself. >> now, your dad, jon huntsman, was a candidate against him and debated against him. did you have a problem, which romney is going to show snup. >> that's what people are asking, is the conservative romney or moderate romney when he ran against senator kennedy or a whole different version of romney? but i will say, the only way he's going to knock president obama off message is if he does
and she helped prep hillary clinton for the debates four years ago. thank you to you both for being here. >> great to be here. >> abby, what's the biggest danger for governor romney tonight? >> reverend, let me start by wishing you a happy birthday tonight. >> you have a file on me, i hear. i hope everything is fine or good. >> i think we'll survive unless you can't hear me but i would say the biggest challenge that mitt romney has is he's in a box. no matter what...
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and there was this moment when he debated hillary clinton. let's take a look. >> he's very likeable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likeable enough, hillary. >> i appreciate that. >> a fine line between, you know, putting your opponent on notice and not appearing to be mean. >> yes. the thing about that clip is she's so self-effacing and good, and he comes back, barely makes eye contact, sort of writing as he makes his line. it's a contrast between the two of them that really hurts him in that clip. >> especially in the double box. professor schroeder, thank you for being with us and patrick millsaps. we'll be watching tomorrow. it will be fascinating. 50 million people expected to watch. 150 million people killed in syria today. we'll tell you what an opposition spokesman is saying about the foreign minister's call for a dialogue next. >>> susan hendricks back with the "360" news and business bulletin. >> another deadly day in syria. an opposition group says at least 150 people have been killed in violence throughou
and there was this moment when he debated hillary clinton. let's take a look. >> he's very likeable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likeable enough, hillary. >> i appreciate that. >> a fine line between, you know, putting your opponent on notice and not appearing to be mean. >> yes. the thing about that clip is she's so self-effacing and good, and he comes back, barely makes eye contact, sort of writing as he makes his line. it's a...
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that have to be election that they will both be knocking at china's door themselves recall that bill clinton one thousand nine hundred two running against george h.w. bush spoke at the beijing butchers but after the november one thousand nine hundred ninety two election he helped to usher china into the world trade organization that's the kind of what partner state but basically turned off a good deal of the u.s. electoral job from going to leave it there but thank you so it's cheryl hall and on the line all the stories much appreciated this is a short break to me to say with a business update for this said late wednesday night in moscow thanks for being with us. if you're passing through rushes to veer region you really can walk on the wild side thousands of kilometers of unspoiled countryside make up an area where it's still possible to live off the land and enterprising locals so the fruits of the forest by the side of nearly every road such spectacular scenery makes it a paradise for fisherman and provides a business opportunity for hunters going on he has been hunting for more than thir
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what did hillary clinton know? has she been takenning her briefings? was she briefed about the situation in libya? was she the one who said, no, we are not going to be providing the security they have asked for? this has those go to the highest levels, given how important it is, given the importance of the post in libya and the ongoing terrorist threat. and the american people need to understand, the president is attempting to cover this up because he wants people tong, oncely got osama bin laden, the threat was gone dha he has been a national security president, when his record is abysmal? >> i want to know why see sew many people cover up for him. nbc news is the worst this. president, 36 days ow of an election, you promised to cut the deficit in half and you gave us $6 trillion in debt. you said we would have 8.7 million new jobs and unemployment at 5 percent, still hasn't been asked this question. could you imagine if this happened to your father if he was running for election or re-election. >> paul ryan talked about it. he says as conservatives,
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>>> joining me today, msnbc contributor sam stein of the "the huffington post," former hillary clinton adviser and deputy new york city mayor howard wolfson, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and buzz feed editor in chief always busy ben smith. the first presidential debate that hour and a half spectacle of ob fewcation, confusion, triumph and exhaustion may be ancient history by the end of today, maybe. new numbers show the nation's unemployed rate dropped to 7.8%. the lowest number since president obama took office in 2009. while the economy added a relatively modest 114,000 jobs in september, new revisions show that july and august saw a combined increase of 86,000 more jobs than originally reported. needless to say, those numbers put a certain pep back in president obama's step. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. now every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's
>>> joining me today, msnbc contributor sam stein of the "the huffington post," former hillary clinton adviser and deputy new york city mayor howard wolfson, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and buzz feed editor in chief always busy ben smith. the first presidential debate that hour and a half spectacle of ob fewcation, confusion, triumph and exhaustion may be ancient history by the end of today, maybe. new numbers show the nation's unemployed rate...
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michael moore tweeted, is bill clinton coming into some? wakeup. john mccain. the republican national committee seized on governor romney's dominance in the evening sky and the president's principal reaction to that and entitled the smirk. >> the cut the deficit in half. four years later and we have a trillion dollar deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. the people who are having a hard time right now are middle income americans. under the president's policies middle income americans have been buried. there just being crushed. middle income americans have seen their income come down by $4,300. at the same time gasoline prices have doubled. electric rates are up, food prices are up. if you're reelected we will get to a trillion dollar debt. you have said before you cut the debt in half. lou: and to post debate polls gave the debate to governor romney. by a huge margin. in fact, the biggest one in history according to one of those polls. the cbs poll showed that 42 percent called romney the victor with only 22 percent s
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bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not hit a home run last night. >> so at this point as a nation, in our entire history as a country, we have had four national attempts of a challenger making his television debate debut against the sitting president of the united states. and after doing this four times as a nation, the record for incumbent presidents facing these challengers is 0-4. okay. so now 1996, incumbent president is that now not as young man from arkansas, bill clinton, and his challenger that year is bob dole. did bob dole really beat incumbent bill clinton in their first debate? actually, no.
bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not...
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clinton says his comments were arrogant and stupid. do you think the advice will register to change the campaign? >> i have tried to be measured in side -- my comments by have been inside to presidential campaigns. look at my op-ed tomorrow. over the last month there have been nine the polls obama is that 50% in only 20. the average number is 47 mitt romney is 47. the media says the race is over. eight years ago at the same time thereafter 30 polls bush was at or above 50% john kerry was five points behind in "the new york times" said it is too close to call. he is at or above the number half the time and two and a half times as much this is the blowout? no. it is a close race. obama's problem he cannot get 50% the number on the election day is likely to be less than your final number because your detractors will vote against you. gerri: it is about the spin. thank you for coming. enjoy the debate. pundits and politicos debates of the long run but they cannot blasted the memorable moments. number 51992. vice presidential showdown with
clinton says his comments were arrogant and stupid. do you think the advice will register to change the campaign? >> i have tried to be measured in side -- my comments by have been inside to presidential campaigns. look at my op-ed tomorrow. over the last month there have been nine the polls obama is that 50% in only 20. the average number is 47 mitt romney is 47. the media says the race is over. eight years ago at the same time thereafter 30 polls bush was at or above 50% john kerry was...
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the reason the clinton era office is prosperous it wasn't prosperous the first four years of the clinton administration. oh no. it was when the republican congress came in beginning in january of 1995 passing welfare reform, fantastic criminal law provisions, we slipped a tax cut in. that was the republican congress driving the bus and clinton signing what was sent to him. >> a.a. mom writes to you on twitter. it's not about the 60's. it's about the current g.o.p. response to the first black president. total rejection, they say, based race. >> um, the idea that what people don't like about obama is his race is preposterous! more white people voted for obama in 2008 than any democratic president in nearly 40 years. and by the way, where was all this love for blacks in high public positions when clarence thomas wasdom nominated to the supreme court? how about when colin powell was made the first black secretary of state or condoleezza rice the first black female secretary of state. not only did republicans not only dislike obama because he's black, democrats don't like him because he's bla
the reason the clinton era office is prosperous it wasn't prosperous the first four years of the clinton administration. oh no. it was when the republican congress came in beginning in january of 1995 passing welfare reform, fantastic criminal law provisions, we slipped a tax cut in. that was the republican congress driving the bus and clinton signing what was sent to him. >> a.a. mom writes to you on twitter. it's not about the 60's. it's about the current g.o.p. response to the first...
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let me remind you, in 2008, president obama ran when he was trying to get to the left of hillary clinton, and he opposed nafta. and as soon as that was gone, he never talked again about renegotiating nafta. we found out later he sent one of his top aides to -- >> one at a time, one at a time. let ari finish, please. >> both candidates have engaged in tactical maneuvering. this is nothing new. >> i'm not saying it's anything new and i'm not saying both candidates don't shift and move to the center after primaries and stuff. the point is, it seems like he's doing that right now. ari, appreciate it. rowland, thank you. >>> new information about the border patrol officer who was shot and killed in the line of duty. the question tonight, was it friendly fire? were they eating when you g when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in
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that after the election that they will both be knocking at china's door themselves recall that bill clinton in one thousand nine hundred two running against george h.w. bush spoke at the beijing pictures but after the november nineteenth to play to a lecture he helped to usher china into the world trade organization that's the kind of hot pockets need that basically turns off a good deal of the u.s. electorate how can you have a realistic debate about the problems that this country faces the many problems this country faces when the kinds of analysis and critique from the left are basically excluded basically this debate comes down in many ways to a choice between tweedle dum and tweedle dee nice way of putting it us historian gerald hole now ok let's get to business now u.s. jobs numbers are even not too bad news others are. not too bad preliminary report from a.d.p. says under sixty two thousand jobs were added in the united states in the month of september and therefore the markets they're looking positive we'll have to wait for a full report of course tomorrow on the news europe's marke
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let me remind you, in 2008, president obama ran when he was trying to get to the left of hillary clinton, and he opposed nafta. and as soon as that was gone, he never talked again about renegotiating nafta. we found out later he sent one of his top aides to -- >> one at a time, one at a time. let ari finish, please. >> both candidates have engaged in tactical maneuvering. this is nothing new. >> i'm not saying it's anything new and i'm not saying both candidates don't shift and move to the center after primaries and stuff. the point is, it seems like he's doing that right now. ari, appreciate it. roland, thank you. >>> new information about the border patrol officer who was shot and killed in the line of duty. the question tonight, was it friendly fire? were they eating . >>> new cases of deadly meningitis have been linked to steroid injections. dr. sanjay gupta joins me after we get back. >>> breaking news tonight in that fatal shooting near the u.s.-mexican border. the border patrol agent murder of nicholas ivie and the other agent on friday. the agents were shot after a tripped ground
let me remind you, in 2008, president obama ran when he was trying to get to the left of hillary clinton, and he opposed nafta. and as soon as that was gone, he never talked again about renegotiating nafta. we found out later he sent one of his top aides to -- >> one at a time, one at a time. let ari finish, please. >> both candidates have engaged in tactical maneuvering. this is nothing new. >> i'm not saying it's anything new and i'm not saying both candidates don't shift...
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is that bill clinton's work? >> reporter: i was just going to say, is it bill clinton's? you could credit him. i think he deserves some credit in the argument he laid out at the convention. but clearly you've moved something. this isn't just democrats deciding, hey, i'm with obama and now i feel better about the country. you're seeing moves with independent voters on that question. people that are going to end up voting for romney, who believe the economy is in recovery. >> the reason for the -- the reason -- >> reporter: the whole thing is coming together for obama. he's in re-elect territory. >> guys, the numbers don't back that up. our second quarter growth number was 1.3, wasn't it? i mean, how do you get -- why are they saying it's better? >> but chris, the people who study this kind of thing and try to correlate economic numbers with election results will tell you that the numbers were good enough in the second and third quarter in terms of growth of real personal income in the country to correlate to a victory for incumbent president. >> wow. >> no, the numbers hav
is that bill clinton's work? >> reporter: i was just going to say, is it bill clinton's? you could credit him. i think he deserves some credit in the argument he laid out at the convention. but clearly you've moved something. this isn't just democrats deciding, hey, i'm with obama and now i feel better about the country. you're seeing moves with independent voters on that question. people that are going to end up voting for romney, who believe the economy is in recovery. >> the...
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politicians seem to do that. >> i think that's a clinton thing. it looks like he's holding a remote control. open gestures are almost always more effective than any closed gestures. >> it's important for a candidate's body language to match what they are saying, right? a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he is now chestrating other attacks on the united states of america, we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, bring him to justice and i'll follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, gosh. >> that was like a smile. >> yes. so that's -- you know, sort of nonverbal asin cronie. between either the content of what the person is saying and the nonverbals or the asynchronies. when you are saying you are following someone to the gates of hell, you shouldn't be smiling. viewers don't know why, but it makes them feel bad. >> there are reports that
politicians seem to do that. >> i think that's a clinton thing. it looks like he's holding a remote control. open gestures are almost always more effective than any closed gestures. >> it's important for a candidate's body language to match what they are saying, right? a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he...
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bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in ter
bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would...
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hillary clinton's response to mr. issa is hold off with -- withhold any final conclusions about the attack until the review board finishes its work and isn't it handy, they will finish their work in november. >> brian: they have to answer the letter today and jason chaffet will be on, the congressman from utah, at 8:52 eastern time. >> martha: what shocked me is that they initially came out and said chris stevens was not the if far get of this attack, that they happened to be there and he was not the target. we've heard absolutely nothing about this. now, what we understand is that when the investigation is done, we'll be told whether or not chris stevens was the target. i ask you, i mean, what we know about how this man was treated and the fact that he was there, he wasn't usually there, and they went in there, took him out and then went over to the other location, also he was unaccounted for very early on in the scuffle that happened in that consulate. so a lot of questions that really do need to be answered. >> ste
hillary clinton's response to mr. issa is hold off with -- withhold any final conclusions about the attack until the review board finishes its work and isn't it handy, they will finish their work in november. >> brian: they have to answer the letter today and jason chaffet will be on, the congressman from utah, at 8:52 eastern time. >> martha: what shocked me is that they initially came out and said chris stevens was not the if far get of this attack, that they happened to be there...